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Abstract Expressionism      
• The New York School     

Group Statement - 2 -      



GROUP STATEMENT

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Reinhardt: It has always been a problem for me - about 'finishing' paintings. I am very conscious of ways of 'finishing' a painting. Among modem artists there is a value placed upon 'unfinished' work. Disturbances arise when you have to treat the work as a finished and complete object, so that the only time I think I 'finish' a painting is when I have a deadline. If you are going to present it as an 'unfinished' object, how do you 'finish' it?

Hofmann: To me a work is finished when all parts involved communicate themselves, so that they don't need me.

moderator Motherwell: I dislike a picture that is too suave or too skill-fully done. But, contrariwise, I also dislike a picture that looks too inept or blundering. I noticed in looking at the 'Carreé' exhibition of young French painters who are supposed to be close to this group, that in 'finishing' a picture they assume traditional criteria to a much greater degree than we do. They have a real 'finish' in that the picture is a real object, a beautifully made object. We are involved in 'process' and what is a 'finished' object is not so certain.

Hofmann: Yes, it seems to me all the time there is the question of a heritage. It would seem that the difference between the young French painters and the young American painters is this: French pictures have a cultural heritage. The American painter of today approaches things without basis. The French approach things on the basis of a cultural heritage - that one feels in all their work. It is a working towards a refinement and quality rather than working towards new experiences, and painting out these experiences that may finally become tradition. The French have it easier. They have it in the beginning.

de Kooning: I am glad you brought up this point. It seems to me that in Europe every time something new needed to be done it was because of traditional culture. Ours has been a striving to come to the same point that they had - not to be iconoclasts.

Gottlieb: There is a general assumption that European - specifically French - painters have a heritage which enables them to have the benefits of tradition, and therefore they can produce a certain type of painting. It seems to me that in the last fifty years the whole meaning of painting has been made international. I think Americans share that heritage just as much, and that if they deviate from tradition it is just as difficult for an American as for a Frenchman. It is a mistaken assumption in some quarters that any departure from tradition stems from ignorance. ...

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